Adopt an MP

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For an explanation of Early Day Motions click here.

Some MPs reply that they do not sign EDMs, but nevertheless indicate that they support our case - somewhat. For an example see replies from ministers Then read what to do next.

We are running a campaign which will make every UK MP more aware of our situation. It is a huge job and we want to enlist the help of all of you who are frustrated that things are not happening. You would be surprised the number of new MP’s who still do not know of our situation

 

Your Committees and Boards are limited in numbers so we direct our energies to correspondence with influential MP’s but they keep coming back to us with all the same old lame excuses.

 

Our new initiative is for each member to ‘Adopt an MP’ and correspond only with them, doing this will ensure that we reach every MP with the real facts. You do not need to be a member of a pensioner association to participate.

 

ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE PART IN THIS CAMPAIGN?

 

If you need them, example letters are here on the website, which you can adapt to your own circumstances but please all mention the surplus in the National Insurance Fund and that pensioners in other parts of the world get the uplift..

 

You must also be prepared for negative replies and brush off’s, but still keep up the pressure. Also you should be prepared to commit at least 6 months to your contact with MPs. One email will not achieve much.

 

There is a new EDM 1895 which you need to read

 

EDM 1895

 

Tracking Your MP

 

This is something worth doing.
 
You can track your MP using http://www.theyworkforyou.com/
 
Log on and click on the third item - "Sign up....."
 
You can then register with them. You need to specify what you want. There is a long drop down list of current MPs so you will have to eyeball for the one you want to track.
 
Once you are accepted you will receive an email after every parliament sitting day giving you a brief extract from Hansard. If your MP has said nothing, there will be no entry for him/her. Even that is worth knowing.

You can then click to the Theyworkforyou web site, and from there to the Hansard record if you wish. The Theyworkforyou web site gives you the opportunity to make a comment, in the hope that it will be passed on to the MP concerned.

 
More important than the comment is that you will find out what makes your MP tick. Track him/her regularly, and be ready to include appropriate comments in your next letter.
 

Please share replies with us. Forward them to CONTACT BAPA especially if there is something in the reply that needs to be followed up.

 

Useful sources for reply:

 

fact_and_fiction.htm

 

frozen_pension_myths.htm

 

Replies from Ministers

 

Some MPs think a reciprocal agreement is necessary.
 
Reciprocal agreements are not necessary. James Purnell, Minister of state, Department of Work and Pensions, said so clearly in the Pensions Bill debate on 27th January 2007. Log on to frozen_pension_myths.htm and select myth No 2, or find "Purnell" on the page.

If they say they can't do anything because you do not live in their constituency, tell them this is not a local matter but a national matter. Here is an excellent expansion of that thought composed by an adopter:


"I thank you for taking the time to reply to my e-mail, and I certainly understand that the issues relating to your own constituents are at the forefront of your priorities.  However, I believe this is a matter of national and international importance which goes far beyond constituency boundaries, and an issue on which more than 500,000 people would welcome your support (including, without doubt, some of your former constituents, and also relations of some of your current constituents)."

Two common statements by Ministers and lesser lights.

"Before entering into a new agreement, any Government would need to consider whether the advantages to be gained outweigh the cost of negotiating and administering the agreement."

Ask the writer how much would it cost to negotiate and administer an agreement.
Don't elaborate on this question. Let them flounder.

"it would cost around £520 million a year to unfreeze the State Pensions paid to UK pensioners overseas and bring them up to the rate they would have been had the individuals concerned remained in the UK."

Ask how much it would cost to bring them up to the rate they would have if they lived in the Philippines.
Once again, do not elaborate on this question. You could use "USA" instead of "the Philippines", but "the Philppines" might make them sit up and think.

Some MPs try to pretend that there is no National Insurance Fund

Is there a National Insurance Fund, or is it just "paper money"? See National Insurance Fund

 


Here are some sample messages:

 

Don't copy them slavishly. Write your own letter or email. Just use the ideas in these samples.

 

Dear someone MP

 

John Hutton, when Pensions Minister, said: "The extension of the FAS is a big boost for people who have lost their occupational pensions as a result of their employer's insolvency. We have listened to the arguments of campaigners, and we have complied with the order in the recent High Court judgment that we reconsider the Ombudsman's recommendation that we compensate affected scheme members.”
 

We frozen expatriate pensioners who are denied annual uprating are delighted by the news that the Government has managed to find the necessary funding – running into billions – but we do wonder why the Chancellor cannot scrape together another ₤500 million (less than 1% of the pensions budget) in order to achieve parity in the state pension, everyone receiving an amount strictly proportionate to contributions made.
 

In the state pension scheme, the Government as Administrator has a fiduciary responsibility to treat contributors equally. Unlike those insolvent employers, the National Insurance Fund has a huge surplus. Ours is not a monetary problem – just a matter of simple morality.

Please help persuade them by signing  EDM 1895.

 

Yours faithfully


Dear Whoever

As a WW2 veteran who has been deemed to be a member of the hero generation who saved the country from a very inhospitable invasion, I am ashamed that the country that I served cannot see fit to pay me the pension that I have paid for on the grounds that I am now living in a country that has been excluded, in quite an arbitrary and illogical fashion from receiving an indexed pension due to the perceived cost, which cannot possibly be justified when the National Insurance Fund surplus is currently £34 billion, rising to an estimated £74 billion by the year 2011/12.

It is a discriminatory, unfair and an immoral situation which any government should be
ashamed to be part of, and I call upon you to end this blatant anomaly.


 

Dear Mr Boverintgon

I am a 75-year old British age pensioner. When I first found out that my pension would be frozen because I live in Australia I accepted that as just the way it was.

But then I found out that if I had retired to the Philippines or the USA my pension would not be frozen. This made me angry. And I am still angry.

Please, Mr Boverington, why am I, living in an old loyal Commonwealth country, treated like this, while pensioners just like me living in other countries get full value for their compulsory contributions?

Have a look at
http://www.britishpensions.org.au/video.htm to see what I mean.

 

Yours faithfully,


 

Dear    ...........................      MP,
 
As a victim of executive theft, I am asking for your help.  The perpetrator is the Department of Work and Pensions and its predecessors in previous governments.
 
By my National Insurance contributions record I am now fully eligible for my annually uprated state pension.  But because life has brought me in my later years (alternatively "because my child/ren settled in...) to live in ......................................., I am denied the yearly cost-of-living pension increase which is strangely allowed for expatriates in weirdly-selected places such as the Philippines,  Pennsylvania and the rest of the United States, Poland, Portugal and many others. 
 
I am, by contrast, now living in our Commonwealth, part of British history.   And strangely for this reason my pension in my last years is steadily reduced.   The Insurance promised via my contributions is denied me.
 
Please give me, and half-a-million like me, your support in putting right this glaring wrong.
 
Please sign  EDM 1895.
 
Yours sincerely,

Dear ------- MP

After a lifetime of working in the UK I came to  - ------- to be with my
----------.  It is a great shock to discover that the British State Pension
I receive here is not only frozen at the amount it was when I first arrived,
but that, after several enquiries, I am told that there is no intention of
ever indexing it and that no British government would, in any case,  be able
to afford the £400 million or so every year to index our frozen state
pensions.  You can imagine my surprise when I discovered that there are
billions (not millions) of pounds in the National Insurance kitty with which
any government could afford to put this horrific injustice to rights, should
it wish to do so.  The will is just not there, although the means are
available.

However, this situation could be changed within the next few weeks as I find
that there ARE Members of Parliament who understand our plight and, with
determination,  could remedy the situation for us.  I am asking if you would
please be willing to join them (if you have not already done so) and put our
case firmly and strongly during the discussions on state pensions now taking
place in Parliament.  There is a current EDM 1895 which gives the whole
picture and, if implemented, would remove this injustice that only some of
us are suffering.  After all, our compatriot pensioners in the USA, Bermuda
 and in many other countries who paid exactly the same National Insurance
contributions, already receive the indexing we request. Only a small percentage
of extra expenditure is needed.

Please help by signing this EDM and putting our case for us.

Yours sincerely


Here are some more examples of Mps' replies


Dear Mr.
Thank you for your email.  The fact that pensions are not uprated to
those outside the European Union is a well-known scandal.  I am sorry
that you have been caught by this.

I prefer not to sign the Early Day Motion because my personal
preference would be to uprate pensions for those living within the
Commonwealth.

I am really very sorry that consecutive governments have failed to
deal with this matter.
Yours sincerely
Peter Viggers MP

 

NB Don't pick them up on the Commonwelth matter. If Commonwealth residents got parity the freezing regime would not last long.


Dear Mrs ,
 

Thank you for your email.

 

Mr Turner has asked me to take responsibility for ensuring that this matter is dealt with promptly and to your satisfaction.  The office is open Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm, if you have any questions or concerns please do let me know.

 

Along with many of his colleagues of all parties Mr Turner is not in the habit of signing Early Day Motions.  They are expensive to administer and are neither debated by the House of Commons nor receive any attention from the Government.

 

Mr Turner prefers to raise the issues directly with Ministers for two reasons, firstly, you then receive a full response to the matters you have raised and secondly Ministers are made aware of the levels of support or opposition to these issues. We will therefore ensure that the matters you raise within your email are addressed with the appropriate Department.

 

Obtaining information from others often takes some time, so please forgive me if I cannot always provide that reply as quickly as I would wish.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Vicky Hayward

 
 
Office of Andrew Turner
Member of Parliament for the Isle of Wight